car confirmation only right now that the driver’s window is currently down. She’s not in the front seat. He’s going to go back down and do a better assessment now. He just wanted us to know that this is the vehicle for sure. And now he’s going to see if he can identify whether either one of them are in the vehicle.
Uh yeah, the car is under the bridge in the canal. They don’t they don’t know if she’s in it yet. They’re going to check. Okay. They don’t know if she’s in it or not. They’re going to go back down and check right now. They’re going to go back down and check. Did you call your mom right now? No, babe. This is all happening right now.
Part of me knew this was going to happen to me. Everybody kept asking to start a GoFundMe so that I could get a search, you know, and get the private investigator, get everything else going, but I knew that this was going to be the case. All right. I’m going to leave you right now. All right. Uh-huh. Baby Sandra and her mom go missing July 15th of 2025, just over a month ago.
We stepped into this case just over a week ago where we met Whisper’s brother, Richard. And today we also collaborated with Juan from Angel’s Recovery out of Stockton. The vehicle is coming out now, but we’re going to bring you into the entire day search, not just now, but we’re going to bring you into the morning, as well as a recap as to what took place a little over a week ago when we first started this investigation.

This is one episode you are not going to want to miss. An urgent search is underway for a missing mother and her baby. The search stretching from Fresno all the way up to Sacramento. 36-year-old Whisper Owen and her eight-month-old daughter, Sandra Mccardi. They haven’t been seen since they left Fresno on July 15th. No one has seen or talked to them. Her car is no longer popping up on any traffic cams. Her phone’s been off.
Your mind goes through all the terrible possibilities. Something happened to my daughter and her little baby, and they’re not taking this seriously. Vicky Torres was the last person to see them after a family visit in Fresno. She was here for a doctor’s appointment for the baby. Everything went well. We had a wonderful visit. She told me how everything was so good at home.
She says Owen left her home in Fresno at around 5:00 p.m. on July 15th, and was headed to Sacramento. Fresno authorities say just 3 hours later at 8:00 p.m. Traffic cameras captured Owen’s vehicle in Atwater, her last known location. The only thing she had to do was stop and get a can of formula because she was on her last bottle. She didn’t run away.
She is a new mom. She’s got a good home life. She has she has three other children. Their hope is they can get answers that bring Owen and McCarti home soon. We just want to find them before it’s too late. Hi Vicki. Yes. Hi there. And my wife. Nicole. Welcome. This is Dan who’s visiting from Australia. How you going? So first of all, we’re first we’re first and foremost here for you.

Um, you know, as you’ve seen, we do document things. Um, are you comfortable with us documenting breakfast this morning? Okay. Have a second. I sound normal. It’s you lot sound different. So, as I was saying, um, I checked with the coffee shop at Expressito over there right after the farm supply and there was a camera that’s pointing directly at the intersection.
Um, unfortunately, I guess they changed ownership 2 days ago, so they took down the old system. So, whatever system was up from the 15th, they don’t have access to. I went further down the road and probably a mile or so, there is a police camp on the facing the road. So, I want to reach out at some point today to Waterford PD and ask them and show them the situation and let them know because as it stands right now, the investigation’s at a freshman and they’ve been reaching out to Atwater to ask them to look, but that is Merced County. This is Stson County, but the sheriff’s only access the cameras county to county. So, they would have had no reason to or resources to be checking here until now. Cuz right now as it stands, as we were talking about a few days ago, thinking that she was just jumping off 99 for a moment and that she and you you were telling me she always takes 99. She she never gets off at 99.

So now where does that take us? Which we were really surprised with this new information that she’s now in Waterford. Yeah. And at that point, what I was my whole thought process was her children’s father, her spouse, he had um he had told me, he goes, you know, she had one headlight out and with no license and everything, I could see her not want to get pulled over.
So, I thought maybe she would look up another way to get home, avoiding the highways. Well, when she left her house that night, her phone was dead. But, I mean, she could have drove a charger out, stopped and bought one. there’s resources she could have used as far I do know that the navigation disc that goes inside of the maps disc that goes inside the navigation of the car was out I don’t know if those map systems in in those are smart enough to avoid highway and that’s what I thought too I was like I don’t think that they are I don’t think they have the filter
to avoid highways she normally travel where she had been um got up really early in the morning and then tried to do a big trip in one day was that normal for her just a bit of a stretch. Well, no, that she could have she she’s done it before. Yeah. But, um, I kind of wanted her to spend the night.

I just, you know, she usually does, which is why he didn’t know she was missing for those couple of days cuz he thought she just stayed at my house. Typically, he’s with her when they do the trip in one day. Yeah. Yeah. So, that they change off driving. One drives up, one drives back. And she was she a bit um anxious because uh Sandra was feverish.
Well, yeah, cuz she she had shots and and um yeah, I there I just think she wanted to get get back home. She just I got the feeling like it was all about um getting her home before she got real fussy because she’s there there’s no like my house is not set up for her. Um I it’s just a one-bedroom little house and it’s it’s just not set up for the baby.
So, and I have five children in a three-bedroom house. So, there’s seven of us already. And she stayed with us for a few months back when the baby was born because she had stroke level blood pressure from the pregnancy. So, she was high risk. So, she stayed in town while the baby was born and um and a few months after to try to get the blood pressure under control.
Well, unfortunately, they never did. But the baby’s primary care doctor stayed in Fresno where we live. So, she would just make the trip down. Well, it gave her an excuse to come see us and for us to see the baby. So, she kept doing it and I can’t help but to think the only reason she would have traveled this way is if she was following GPS cuz she’s not she’s not your northeast, south, west kind of girl. You know, I’ve tried to direct her somewhere before and told her like, “Hey, it’s on the west side of the street.” She’s like, “No, wrong.” She’s
like, “Left or right?” You know, we’re not doing west and east like and it’s harder when you’ve got one headline and all those kind of elements. When she was stressed, the blood pressure’s up already. And when she was seen in Atwater, she was there for 15 minutes.

They have her on high definition footage pulling in, pulling the baby out, changing her, putting her back in, and leaving. And they can see in all the windows of the vehicle, they were alone. There was nobody else in the vehicle with them. And the only chance that she would the only margin of time she had from the time she left there to the time she was spotted here is 10 minutes.
Uh, no fixed cameras as far as the roadway goes. Well, we’d have to drive all of that to find out. Yeah, exactly. Until now, I didn’t think of this as a possibility. So, you can see her come through the intersection right here. Yeah. And there’s nothing that stands out that like I’m I’m I’m in a hurry. She doesn’t have that. It’s the normal speed going through town, same speed as the other car. So, she’s in theory heading to Oakdale.
My assumption would be at this point she’s following GPS. So she would have followed the one that that is naturally taking her on. You know, if you look it up, it gives you the one that they suggest and then you’d have to select the variation. So I mean when I looked it up the first time, it gave me one.
Looking it up today, it gives me another one. So road conditions, things like that. Oakdale, Riverbank, Escalon. Trying to see if she went through there. Escalon said they don’t have anything on her. He’s waiting for a call back from River Bank and Oakdale. If he hears anything from them confirming that she went through there, then he’ll let us know.
Did I hear that she didn’t have a license? Great. No, she’s never. Okay. So, she’s just a bit panicky, too. She put it on the line. She doesn’t want to get in trouble. She’s like, she wants to get home as quick as it can. Keep in all honesty, she has a warrant and she she would with bad headlight and the baby in the car, she wouldn’t want to get pulled over. Yeah,
she has a warning out of Sacramento. Oh, okay. Right. Yeah. So, with accident scenarios, what you’ll find often too is the highest risk points are just before getting home and just before you’ve left. She’s already left. So, let’s take a look at the route out of here. We’re at breakfast here. This here’s where the uh farm supply is at. This one is definitely too shallow for that little lateral.
This one you said you took a look at, but you’re not quite sure on what the actual depth of is of it. Yeah. So, this this one’s plenty wide. And again, we don’t know how deep it is. And I saw that a lot of the other laterals are really high right now, which is going to give you another 3 to 4 ft. So, if this is like the other ones, we’re looking at 8 to 10 ft of depth right here.
And you’ve got access on both sides of it to make your way in. So, we definitely want to check this one. Uh, first thing, which as I’m looking at it is my most logical at this moment in time. And then if we don’t have any success there, then we’ll continue on up the road and we’ll go check some of these other locations. There’s happens to be a pond in front of somebody’s house. Is it deep enough? We don’t know.
But that’s a lot closer to Sacramento on that one. We have the boat ramp also at Jacob’s Park boat ramp there in Riverbank. But I’m not hopeful on that one because in talking to Richard, you know, she has everything going for her.
She’s not looking, she’s not like some of these other cases where we work where it’s like, “All right, we need to work boat ramps because, you know, she plans on, you know, leaving on her own accord.” And then we have another lateral just north of there, uh, out of Oakdale heading up, uh, to the north that we’ll check that one and then the pond after that. [Music] And so on the footage here, this one to the right, right here is southbound and that’s where she came out of Atwater. And then she came right through the intersection here.
And then there’s a camera right here on the Ace Hardware that picked her up. [Music] Yeah, it’s very shallow. Oh, yeah. You can see the bottom there. Yeah, it’s very shallow. So, no go there. I can see the bottom there. Yeah, we got 4 point 4 and a half. It’s way too shallow per vehicle. And how tall is the Blazer? Uh, it’s going to be six. Six. Yeah.
So, even if it drifted down around the corner, it would be sticking up. Yeah. And see, this is all concreted as well. So, it’s all going to be the same through here. Yeah. All right. That one takes this one off the list. We’ll head up the road to the next one and keep knocking them out. [Music] Up to the boat ramp. [Music] I’m going to hang here a minute.
have you zip back down to this uh river crossing even though the river is shallow. Uh unfortunately we’ve seen people have had medical uh situations where they end up off in the brush and that ravine really dropped down before the guardrail. So head back to the southside, check both sides of that and uh we’ll hang here for you and uh text me if you see anything and we’ll come meet up with you. If not, I’ll be here waiting for you.

He’s only a mile back. We’re not that far from him. We’re coming up on 10 minutes for him being gone. Should have been a 3 to 5 minute round trip to verify real quick. [Music] [Music] went back and walked it both directions both sides of the road. It’s a long ways down, but a few probably about 50 ft that way. It’s all well-maintained orchards with access road goes in and out of there.
You can tell it’s well traveled. Fresh tire prints and whatnot, but um I went all the way back in there as much as I could. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you had me nervous for how long you were gone. I was like, “Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I was trying to be thorough to because it’s real thick. The shrubbery is real thick as it gets closer to the water.
” And I was thinking, “All right, well, I don’t want to overlook it and drive off.” But before we went to breakfast, we had driven this way. And I drove back and I was like, “We got to check that on the way back.” So, when he stopped, I was like, “All right, it’s good.” We go back and do the due diligence. Yeah. Yeah.
Cuz there, like I said, there’s been quite a few that have been found, you know, 100 yards off the road and you just they’re just buried in the brush. You just don’t see them. It’s like I was telling my mom and my wife a while ago, after about 7 to 10 days, the brush will bounce back and you won’t see a hole in it. You won’t see somewhere where a vehicle went off the road. Yep. Branches when they bounce back. All right. Yeah.
We’ll we’ll keep uh you know, you and I, let’s all keep focused on anything possible for that on the way up. All right. All right. We’ll see you up at the boat ramp. [Music] [Music] Parking restricted 24 hours a day. Look at Yeah, that’s only like like Dan said 6 to 12 inches deep right there. Kind of seems a bit pointless having a boat ramp here. I don’t even think there’s enough water to float a boat.
No, let’s um coming over a river bank was just like weird. So, I’m going to take the road. I’m not going to go up this way, which should be the shortest of the lateral. I want to put eyes on what I feel like the route would actually be heading up through Oakdale. So, let’s cut back that way before we head back north on it. Yeah, we’re on the same page.
Okay, we’re on the same page. [Music] [Music] Hello. Hey, there’s uh Oh, where where you at right now? I’m at the Circle K back there. Um I’m trying to see if they have any footage that they can check to see if she made it this far. See if she came this route. Okay. I’m I’m going to drop you a pin. There is a uh storage unit that I’m just north of right now.
So, I’ll drop you a pin to the storage units. And there’s a camera on the north side of the building facing the exact direction that we need it to face to pick her up coming up the road. and then I’ll keep uh working my way up to this later lateral up here. Okay. Thank you. Yep. You’re welcome. [Music] Oh, that could absolutely be deep enough right there, huh? [Music] That’s some gnarly water there. Oh, that’s 7 ft deep right there.

8 ft deep. It’s all right, pup. [Music] Pull it up now. [Music] That already picked something up right there. Look. See that right there? It might just be the bank though. [Music] All right. Come on. Give me a vehicle. [Music] So far clear. 2 and 1 half miles an hour there. [Music] So, right there is the end of the concrete portion of it.
Now, it gets a little deeper here with the uh rock and regular digout riverbank. So far, nothing. Certainly, if there was something in there, it would have shown up. Ready? Yep. All right. Three, two, and here we go. So, we’ve uh we pulled the boat out and we scanned this one. Um, so we threw the ball in and it was 7 and 12 to 8 ft deep. We threw the RC boat in.
We did side and down scan all the way to the other little bridge right here. Nothing nothing in there at all. I stopped and talked to Circle K. Their footage only goes back six days. Okay. So, then I went to Chevron. They’re going to look into it. The lady said she can’t do it right now. I do know that the couple of cameras that are um remote link for PD, one’s located in that um Chevron parking lot and the other one was prior to that on the street the street light and Oakdale PD is supposed to be manually checking those for that time frame and getting back to the detective. But once again, I mean that’s
if they do it or when they do it type thing. So, right. Um, come check out the computer with me for what I’m looking at. Again, this is I, you know, I don’t want to throw a she did this on purpose thing, but how frustrated could she possibly be as a mom that has, you know, the stroke levels, baby’s been crying for how long? We don’t know what’s going through her head at this point in time.
Um, so how do you feel about me following up on this type of a theory? I mean, whatever you’re willing to do to help us. It’s appreciated. Reality of it is is if it’s deep enough waterway to need your guys’ services and your expertise, then I’m going to be rested more assured that he checked than than not.
Regardless of what the theory is or the thought process behind it because if you’d have asked me 27 days ago, if I thought my sister would have traveled this, I would have told you not in a million years. There’s no possible way she would have came this way. Yeah. But I mean, that’s not the case, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. the the the struggle that I have with this is that she’s heading north at this point.
So, does she make a left immediately after ace? Does she end up falling throat up? Does she end up going through Oakdale? We’re north of Oakdale now. And now where we’re at right now is is we started there in Waterford. Uh we checked that location. We went to Riverbank. We’re currently at this location.
And they based on the routes that we have for this back road that goes up to Sacramento. The only other location that we have right now that’s available for the accident scenario is this pond right here in front of somebody’s yard and I don’t know how deep it is. So this is what I have right here is it doesn’t have a big ditch. It’s easy access.
There’s no fence here and you know that could be 8 10 ft deep right there. So I’m sure that they’ll give us permission to go ahead and search that. But the thing is is do we commit to going all the way north from where we’re currently at? Or do we drop back and say, “All right, does she can she did she drop back over here out of Waterford and just say, you know what, there’s a reservoir right there.” But she’s not from the area.
She doesn’t know that there’s a reservoir right there. Like this is this is not your backyard. Yeah. No, not at all. And the only way that I can even see her making it to Waterford is if she was following GPS cuz that’s so far off the beaten path. The only other real body of water that I was able to locate was if she would have dropped down the 132 and then back down to Hatch Road down here.

But again, if she’s following GPS, it’s taking her straight down the 132 to Empire to Modesto and she’s on 99 if that’s what she was going to do. Not heading back south. I I think where I’m at with the reality of this is not angle or self harm angle. I think where we’re at is she’s trying to get home. Nothing on 99.
We have nothing else except for this location here. And she’s not going to overshoot it and go up to the American River at all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got all this up here for So, there’s the One Avenue Bridge is what I believe is right there. And uh there’s shopping center and access points where you can pull in and you can pretty much pull down to one, right? But that’s like I said, I mean, we spent probably the better part of the last 13, 14 years in that area.
That’s her, she knows that like the back of her hand. So, she was looking for somewhere to park off and be left alone and possibly, you know, look for an opportunity to just be alone and do whatever she was going to do, then that would be a comfort zone for that. Yeah. Right. That would be like a, you know, somebody going to bed to to end it type thing. So, so let’s do this then.
Uh, Richard, let’s go check this pond and then let’s go north of her home and check a couple of these locations if we don’t find her at the pond location. And then this is one of those scenarios that normally, you know, we we go back, we make the documentary, we release it.
You know, that’s that’s not what this is about for right now. This is new. She’s missing. You’re not getting enough media attention on it. You’re not getting enough local local help on it. So, I think that what we do is should we not find her at this location with the with the pond or the American River, let’s do a live stream.
If you’re in any one of these towns along the way in the area, we we need your help, you know, and I think that’s the right thing for us to do today to to help you out. And sounds good. I appreciate it. Like I said, I appreciate everything. Yeah. All right, let’s head up to that pond. I’ll drop you a pin drop as to where that’s at. And if we see anything else along the way, let’s make sure we stop and take a look at it.
All right, we’ll see you up the road. [Music] [Music] Yeah. So you got guard rail, guardrail, but then you also have like this metal post up here, but on the left hand side, it almost looks like it’s like looks like it’s down, but over here on the right, there’s all of that is still up. There’s just no indication. No indication. Yeah.
That she went off the road at some point. Yeah, cuz that would have been bent over. That would have been bent over. [Music] All right. So, entry points. I think that’s too steep. She would actually bottom out there. I look shallow, too. What do you got over there, Kade? Yeah, I can see the bottom. You can see the bottom here.
Uh uh so we’re going to finish running this uh route to her house and then let’s uh jump up to the closest boat ramp from her house and then put in at the river and run uh a couple of those portions of the river between that boat ramp and then up uh past the straight shot to her from her house and then up the river a little bit further from there as well.
She wouldn’t travel all night to get near her house to then put herself in the water. Not true. You could be on the road for 20 hours and then go, I’m almost home. I feel comfortable. This is where I’m going to do it. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It’s a place that you know. What about mom? What is mumble from your childhood, your teen years, your adult years? She knows the American River area.

So, yeah. So, the baby’s going to need its nappy changed every hour. Oh, no. Well, how long has it been since you’ve had a baby that was 8 months old? Been a while. And I don’t change the nappy on the granddaughter. And it’s late at night, so baby should be sleeping. She’ll be sleeping. Okay.
It’s not like she’s going to have another stop point unless she’s so tired she says, “You know what? I’ve just got to stop. [Music] [Music] That’s really clear where Watt Avenue crossings. Yep. Just the other side of Watt, there’s like a little just kind of like this, but it’s not as um big of a boat ramp. It’s like um dirt. Yep. Yeah.
Yeah. So that that’s the one I want to go up to from here. We used to always pull our cars down to the water right there. Barbecue, hang out. Like that’s our family hangout spot. Okay. And Yeah. So that would be and that one’s open all the time whereas this one has a gate. Yeah, I believe that one’s always open. Okay. This is still soft.
[Music] Yeah, super clear, super shallow here. [Music] You and your sister close or what? Uh what type of relationship? Yeah. Um so we came out a broken home as kids, you know what I mean? And she raised me and taught me pretty much everything as far as principles, morals, values, all that good stuff.
But I mean, by the time I was seven or eight years old, she was teaching me how to cook spaghetti for myself and wash my clothes and how to take care of myself. But when I was um 13 and she was about uh 15 16, we went out on our own. We kind of went separate ways. I mean, it got too much for her to take care of me and herself. And um I was here actually 13 years old and I went out on my own living in this area and she was in Fresno at the time.
And it wasn’t until about two years later, she was about 18 years old, she came up here and she’s been here ever since. I went back and to and from Fresno, off and on between then and now. But, um, we’ve always stayed in touch. And at one point I was doing really well and she wasn’t doing so good and vice versa. It’s when we went back and forth with who’s doing better. But we’ve always stayed in touch, always been there for each other.
And um I mean if we went like I said if I didn’t know where she was for more than 12 hours at a time it was by choice. There was never a period where I didn’t know where she was or if she was okay just because you know we grew up not having really much but each other. Our older brother, he was kind of a knucklehead. He was always in trouble with the law.
Been on probation since he was like 12 years old. Since we were real little. Yeah. So we kind of had to rely on each other. And our parents were always in the picture. just not so much reliable. And um the consistency in our childhood was each other.
So once we started having kids, it became a matter of trying to do better for our kids than it was done for us and holding each other accountable for that. Yeah. Kids really give a life purpose, don’t they? Yeah. Yeah. They have a way of putting things in perspective. Yeah. And I always, you know, my sister’s had a rough go at it as far as being a parent. And I always told her, you know, I was kind of hard on her.
I tell her, you know, you’ve raised me, so why can’t you, you know, be the example for them? And I tell her, why I don’t understand what’s so hard about wanting to do better in your own life now that you have all these reasons to. And I just I could never really get a grasp on it, you know? And um when she had this last baby 8 months ago, we had this whole conversation cuz like I said, she has an active warrant. And um she’s like, “No, that’s why I’m here.” her.

She goes, “I just between my blood pressure and and the warrant, I don’t want to just keep running and wonder how long it’s going to take to take care of this.” So, after she had the baby about less than a month in, I had brought her up here and turned her in. And we went down and she turned herself in.
And I got 40 minutes away driving back to Fresno and the baby was still in Fresno with my wife and they called me and they said, “You got to come back and get her.” And I’m like, “What? What do you mean? You guys already took her?” And they go, “No, her blood pressure’s at stroke levels. We can’t take her like this. You need to come pick her up. We were kicking her out the door. Come. It was like 9:00 at night. Wow.
And I’m like, “So, what if I don’t come pick her up?” They said, “Well, then she’s going to be stuck out here.” Well, here it’s it’s the branch. It’s like 20 mi from town, so there’s nothing out there. So, I had to drive back and get her. Well, took her home. It was hard enough to get her to leave the baby the first time and go turn herself in. So, after that, she’s like, “I just want to go home, be with the other kids.
” and and I was kind of disappointed that she wasn’t willing to try to follow through and go back. So, we weren’t talking as frequently as we normally would or as often, but she was coming down at least once every month, every other month for the doctor’s appointments, sometimes twice a month in the last 8 months, but we talk at least once or twice a week on Facebook Messenger cuz she doesn’t keep a a steady phone number.
And the reason for that is just to try to keep the past life in the past. Keep people from being able to get a hold of her that want her to go run a muck and get, you know, get in trouble. And um it just regrets her in abundance. You know, I wish I would have reached out to her more or tried to make sure she had a more steady line of communication.
But if she’s here, I can call her kid’s father and get a hold of her nine times out of 10. And if she’s in Fresno, I can call my mom. So we don’t really worry about her having a phone cuz we can always get a hold of her one way or the other. But with this situation, I just it’s it kind of bums me out because I didn’t call that night to check because I’m so used to not being able to get a hold of her and that I figured, well, if I call her, she’s not going to answer and then I’m going to be worried about her thinking she didn’t make it home and then it’ll be a couple days and then
I’ll finally get a hold of her again. Is this where you can drive in? One of the spots. I’m not sure. It’s hard to tell from here. Yeah, we’re coming up on the one the the midpoint is where we’re coming up on right now. Just north of our house. Really shallow though. You can see the bottom here. I almost feel like this is a hiking trail access. Yeah,
because you have the power line. Yeah. So, it looks like you have like a power line road that comes in all the way to right here. And it and it was 12 ft deep there. So, we had plenty of depth coming through there. And uh and Vicki is biological mom for both of you. Yeah, we have the same mom, same dad. Now, she’s uh she’s So, she’s now married. She’s not married. Okay. So, that’s why she has maiden name her or her name.
your name still, but they perceive it as though they’re married. So, they’re treating it as a marriage. Yes. Okay. Yeah. At this point, they have three kids together. I mean, an 8-year-old, a three-year-old, and then an 8-month-old. Uh-huh. Yeah. My brother-in-law, he um went down to the family courthouse, which is actually right down the street from here this morning.
try to establish emergency custody so that way they’ll file an Amber Alert because you know he doesn’t have his kid and they’ll granted him, you know, visitation rights at the least. And they told him like that’s not really the way it works. We have to be able to serve her paperwork in order for that to be in valid point.
And he’s like, “Yeah, but I just, you know, I’m trying to get law enforcement more engaged and they won’t do an Amber Alert because she’s legally allowed to be with her mother, but it’s been 20ome days, right?” And um that’s where he was this morning when we were having breakfast. He was waiting for the courthouse to open at 8:00 and he’s been trying to play catch-up with us all day long.

When we were at the last um lateral right before we went to the pond area, he was heading that direction. By the time we left there, he was showing up and then he almost caught us at that last little pond area, but there was nothing there to check. So, he missed us. And I told him, I said, “Well, we’re going to head to the American River.” And he’s like, “Well, what’s what’s that about?” And I said, “Well, we’re exhausting all options.
” I said, “At the end of the day, we would rather know that we use these resources to check these waters that we’re not capable of checking without equipment while it’s here than wondering, well, what if?” You know, the what ifs are going to drive us crazy. Oh, yeah. Real shallow. Yeah. It all looks shallow over here, huh? Yeah.
This area by the bridge right here, it’s there’s pockets. And they used to have a hard time. The rangers would sit out here all summer because the kids would come out here and they walk and next thing you know, they just go under. Well, that one’s cleared off. Head to the other side of the bridge where you guys hang out. Come out here and sit here and watch to wait for somebody to try to put a jet ski in. Had to wreck that every time.
Get in. Woo. So, yeah. See, this is just like goes right up to the parking lot. And for the longest time, I don’t even know if they blocked it off still, but yeah, that’s that’s all shallow. So, nothing in there. They blocked it off, too, it looks like. Yeah, everything’s been shallow getting through here. All right.
Well, I say that checks our interested areas off there. Yeah. And these are the only ones that are really like this. I mean, everything else is all like hike in type thing. And you have one more that the the Gris Gris Mill recreation area. You’ve been up to that one before. Not personally and not with her, but it doesn’t mean that she hasn’t.
Again, looks shallow, but since we’re in the water, let’s go cover it cuz there’s one on both sides of the river. I’m afraid it’s still going to be just as shallow. But let’s check it. The authorities, unfortunately, they don’t they don’t do much. License plate reader and Atwater. It took them 36 hours after we reported her missing to even run the plate.
And then they ran it and within 5 minutes, they had atwater. That’s all they’ve had. Yeah. For 27 days. And then yesterday, we got a call on a flyer that my brother-in-law went and canvased and handed out right there in Waterford. He went and drove through there and handed out flyers with his number on it. because a lot of people go, “Well, I’m not going to call the cops. I don’t like calling cops.
” And he’s like, “Well, call me.” Yeah. And he didn’t I don’t even think he even talked to anybody at the farm supply store. That was all through word of mouth in the town that that footage came up. Yeah. And it’s like, you know, the cops keep going, “Well, we don’t know about the boyfriend. We’re looking into the boyfriend still.” You guys did that.
Sacramento did that. Fresno did it again. CHP did it. You’ve had four different law enforcement agencies all look into it or different branch or offices look into it. And I get all these people on social media and even my my father. He drove out here from Arizona.
He came out, asked me if I thought my sister would sell her baby, asked me, you know, if I thought she’d run away, drove through Atwater, didn’t stop. Came up here, picked up my homeless brother, took him back down to Fresno, sat there for two days, brought my brother back, dropped him off, and went back to Arizona.
He was in in state for all about 3 days, looked for for maybe 20 minutes if I had to guess. asked a bunch of questions and then on his way back through he tells me, “I think that that Bobby knows more than he’s telling us. I think he knows something.” And I’m like, “What makes you think that?” He goes, “I don’t know.” And I said, “Did you go see him?” He goes, “No.” So, well, I’m sorry, Dad.

And Bobby’s brother or the Bobby is um the boyfriend. I told him, “Did you go see him?” He goes, “No.” I said, “If I thought somebody did something to my daughter or knew something about my daughter and she was missing, I’d go shake his hand, look him in the eyes, and ask him, “Why didn’t you?” He goes, “Well, I didn’t need to. Look at these text messages.” I looked at him.
my dad telling him that his car is messed up and he doesn’t know he’s going to make it back to Arizona and you know Bobby offering to help him get some car parts or some gas or whatever he needs while he’s here in town and then my dad telling him no that’s all right and that’s it. I’m like nowhere in that do I see you inquiring about your daughter or my sister.
I what? Right. And it just I was flabbergasted at the fact that and I was kind of sad for for Bobby because his response to my dad coming was, “Oh, hell yeah. Here we go.” He goes, “These cops don’t know what they’ve got in store for him. There’s hell on wheels coming for him now.” He goes, “Ed’s coming. I’m juiced.
” He’s all excited about my dad coming. Oh, my sister’s always pumped my dad up to be, you know, something to be afraid of, something to reckon with, you know, and he didn’t even bother trying while he was here. And it just, you know, it sucks when you’re out here looking for your woman and your eight-month old baby and he’s still got to go home every day and tell his eight-year-old and his three-year-old that he he still don’t know where their mom is. And all he’s getting is people on social media and even family, friends, and his
exw wife offered to hire a PI and asked us not to tell them. And I’m like, okay. you know, I mean, people are going, “What if he’s he’s, you know, steering the search in the wrong direction?” So, at this point, the only leads that we’re getting are coming from him, and he’s not filtering it. He’s not holding anything back. The email I sent you, he forwarded me.
You know, he’s not It just It doesn’t speak to somebody that’s trying to hide something they did. And my sister had affliction with drugs off and on periodically throughout the last 15 to 20 years. He could have made it look like an overdose if he really wanted to do something like that. There was no reason.
Not to mention, she was just sitting there basically screaming from the rooftops how happy they were and how good things were going at home and how things have never been that good between them. And I’m like, well, that doesn’t speak to the effect that you know what’s the um you know, just to dig here with a whatif scenario. Um your sister have a temper.
Is she always very calm? And how is she with the kids? And where I’m going with this is was there an accident where something accidentally happened to Sandra because she was so frustrated with the drive being up and then now now she’s in a pickle. My sister’s not a very highteered person. Okay. She’ll shut down before she’ll get aggressive.
So she’ll just stop talking and her kids are um they’re all spoiled like ridiculously and she just takes it and lets them have their way. And I’m talking like her three-year-old will throw a fit for a bottle of soda. And when I say bottle, I mean like a baby bottle with soda in it, right? And I’m like whisper that you got to take the bottle away for one, and two, he shouldn’t be drinking soda.
And she’s like, well, you know, he’s happy. He’s fine. And I’m like, you can’t do that. And she’s like, well, I know, but just leave it alone. And then I’ll take it away. And I’m like, no. And then he starts throwing a fit temper tantrum, screaming, and she’ll deal with it. She she doesn’t get upset. She doesn’t get short with him.

And um I just she’s always telling me that I should be more calm with my kids and I should have a calmer demeanor. And I’m like, you know, we were raised getting popped in the lip if we tisked at our mom. You know what I mean? And she’s just like, “No, Richard, you can’t do that. And don’t tell your kids to shut up. That’s not okay.
You’re teaching them that it’s okay for people to tell them to shut up. Especially your daughters. Do you want them to grow up and let men tell them to shut up and be quiet?” She’s like, “You can’t talk to your kids like And I’m like, you know, from the way we were raised, I I don’t know where you get this demeanor that your kids could just do whatever and it’s acceptable.
And she’s like, well, they love me and I love them and we have an understanding and you know, they may get upset, but at the end of the day, they’re good kids. And I’m like, yeah, I can’t argue with her logic. They are spoiled, but they’re good kids and they give her a hard time, but for me and their dad and everybody else, they’re good kids. They’re great. They’re wellmannered, well-demeured children.
they just give her a run for her money because kids do that. You know, mom is their safety zone. So, in the way of that, I really just I thought about that. I thought, what if something happened and she’s just afraid to come forward? She’s afraid to let her, you know, to tell somebody that something happened, you know, but she’s not the type to shake the baby or lose her temper or leave the baby in the car and go walk away, you know, and then something like that happened that just she would sit there and let that baby scream before anything else. And I mean
when the baby was first born, she was not she wasn’t colicky. She was just having a hard time. She was constipated and she was having a hard time acclimating to the formulas. And she was screaming for like 2 weeks straight. And my sister would be sitting there while I I got to leave. I’d go to work and go take the kids places. I’d come home and she’s like, “Here, bro.
” She’s like, “You got to take the baby for a minute.” And I’d take her and get, you know, get the baby to burp or pass gas and she’d be like, “How do you do that?” And I was like, “How long has she been crying?” And she like it’s been like four straight hours this baby’s been crying. And I’m like I don’t know how you look so calm. I’d be pissed.
And I told her at one point I said you just got to put the baby down sometimes, walk out for 15 minutes, let her cry. Half the time they’ll cry themselves asleep. But as long as you can hear her and she’s not choking and you’re okay. But you can’t sit there and let them scream in your ear when they’re fussy like that because you’ll get to a point where you just can’t tolerate it no more. Now she’s 8 months so it’s a little bit better.
But the baby was feverish behind the shots. She wasn’t to the point where it was like, you know, where she would have been wailing until my sister couldn’t take it no more. That picture actually of the baby on the flyer, that was taken immediately before they drove they drove away. That is like the most recent picture of that baby is possibly be.
My stepson, he’s uh 12. He lost his dad almost 4 years ago. And um this is hard for him, you know what I mean? He’s seeing us look and we’ve lost two of his grandparents, three of his grandparents, um, an aunt, his dad, and multiple people just probably five or six very close immediate family members and five or six, you know, distant members and and friends of the family. And, uh, he’s 12 now. He’s 12. Yeah.
and he was like uh nine when we lost his dad and he comes in every time he walks through the room he comes over and gives me a hug like I love you I love you you know and and people are like what’s up and like this is affecting him and I’m like he’s trying to support me because he knows in this moment that there’s nothing anybody can say or do and at 12 years old all he wants to do is make me feel better and that’s a lot of weight for a 12-year-old to carry and I’ll be sitting there trying to put on the front and he’s just looking at me just we went to church the other day and everybody’s out there and they’re waiting for me to get out. So,
any word yet? Any news yet? Have you figured anything out? And he just came over and he gave me a hug and he’s like, “Are you all right?” And I’m like, “Yeah, I’m good, bud.” You know what I mean? I’m good. And he’s like, “It’ll He’s like, what did he say?” He goes, “Um, we’ll be okay.” He didn’t say it’ll be okay. He said, “We’ll be okay.
” And I’m just thinking, you know, the loss this kid’s experienced and what he’s had to learn how to cope with, there’s no closure. You know what I mean? and they’re just learning how to accept it and deal with it. And here this 12-year-old still doing that. And his his uncle reached out to me today and he goes, “Uh, how are you doing?” He goes, “You know, when we lost my brother, that was hard, but we knew and you don’t know and I don’t know how you’re dealing with this, but just so you know, we’re here, you know, and everybody’s praying and this, that, and the other.” I told him, “You’re not a very religious person, so I appreciate the sentiment.” You know
what I mean? And he goes, “Well, I didn’t say I was praying.” He goes, “I said we were praying.” He goes, “Everybody’s got something to look into, but right now I just want to let you know I’m letting everybody that I know know to pray, you know.” And I’m like, “Well, I appreciate that.” You know, my father, he did time 20 years ago for drug trafficking.
I’ve done time three times in the last 15 years for drug trafficking, arms trafficking, things like that. Um the the baby’s dad, he’s done a couple times for trafficking or, you know, for drugs. So, of course, when the cops look at us as a family and they’re like, “Are you sure somebody didn’t take her to get back at you guys or you know what I mean? Like, what’s really going on here? You guys know something you’re not telling us?” And we’re wasting resources looking for her like she’s ran off or, you know, missing or whatever the case may be. And my mom, I mean, she lost a a custody battle with
my father when we were kids and she kidnapped us. So, she’s a kidnapper, you know what I mean? Like, on paper, we all looked horrible, right? you know, and then my sister has a warrant for child endangerment. So, it’s like looking at it, it’s like, you know, okay, but if that’s the case, like I almost feel like as much as that warrants them dismissing it, they should be looking into it. We’re a family of criminals when 8month old baby’s missing. Yeah.
Yeah. Make make it just about the baby. Don’t Don’t worry about Whisper at this point. Where’s Sandra? That That’s one way to look at it. But then another way for me to also cover for law enforcement and to kind of take the heat off of them is they, you know, you have to also look at it, you know, they have 15 new cases a day and now here we are 20 days later, which means they now have 150 cases that have come across their desk since this started.
And how do you balance that case and that workload? We have one cold case detective in Mississippi where there’s only two of them for the entire state to work cold cases. Yeah. I know. Originally when we called it in, nobody was open cuz it was the weekend. CHP didn’t answer. Fresno PD didn’t answer. The only reason it went to Fresno Sheriff’s Department is because they’re the only ones that answer on the weekend, right? And they have one guy that works missing persons and Fresno County Sheriff’s. So then they handed it off to Sacramento cuz she was thought to be traveling this
way and lives here. And Sacramento said, “Well, she never made it.” And less than I I want to say less than 24 hours later, they handed it back to Fresno PD instead of Fresno Sheriff’s. and they said, “Oh, well, they got a whole task force. They got a whole It’s not.
It’s a few detectives working missing persons, you know, and um unfortunately we have more of a drug and a gang problem in Fresno than we do a missing person’s problem. So more resour resources are gained towards that, you know, and um I mean my brother-in-law, my wife’s brother, he had a warrant for possession of a stolen vehicle and 15 cops, five cars, ran him down using cameras and arrested him in a parking lot since my sisters went missing.
And they came and and knocked on my door and said, “Hey, do you know where he’s at?” And I I looked outside and there’s two unmarked cars and an SUV and a black and white and they’re all out there in tactical gear with all fully goo, you know, suited and booted. And I I said, you know, I I understand you guys got a job to do.
I said, but if I’m not mistaken, you’re magic, right? And he goes, yeah, so that’s the gang task force. I said, and that’s the heat team. He goes, yeah, that’s stolen car task force. and said, “You guys have two task force right now looking for one guy for possession of a stolen vehicle and he’s already been arrested and you guys have released him on a monitor, which means you guys let him go.
” So, he wasn’t that big of a high-profile of a case. And you got how many officers out here looking for him right now? I got a missing sister and and a niece. How many are cops are looking for them? And he’s like, “Well, I wouldn’t be able to tell you.” And I said, “Well, how many people are on the missing person’s task force?” He goes, “They don’t have a task force.
” I, okay, yeah, that’s all I needed to know. I’m not going to say Aaron Brillia because he doesn’t decide where the money goes and the allocations go from the department. That’s not his job. His job is to go out and do what they tell him to do. I understand that. But if you get one cop that has enough initiative to take a report or to put extra eyes out there or to take a photo and circulate it.
The first time I went looking for my sister, I hit Turlock DD after I came through out of out of Atwater. And that one cop took a picture of the the flyer and circulated it with all the on duty officers and asked them to look back and see if they might have pulled it over and gave her a warning for the headlight or whatever the case may be.
Well, a week and a half, almost 2 weeks later, we call that water or um Turlock PD to try to report them missing and see if they could look in their county. And they said, “Somebody already reported this a week and a half ago. We’re looking.” Well, that one cop took that initiative. It wasn’t his right or his responsibility or her his authority. He wasn’t he was just a regular beat cop. He was a youngster. But that could have been the difference. All it takes is one person caring enough to try.
Yeah. you know, and you know, we get asked, you know, why why have we been able to solve so many? Like, first of all, you have to realize, you know, the 10,000 searches we’ve done that we have not found somebody. You know, we put in the time to where we may or may not find someone, but also we come into it with heart of I’m coming into it as your brother, you know, as your friend, as your neighbor, you know, as her uncle or her dad.
You that’s how we come into this is we come into it as a village and as your neighbor. Hey, so this one here on the south side is the closest to your or on the side of the road or side of the river where your sister’s at, but it’s all shallow through here. [Music] We’re going to put everything away right now and then we’re going to pull up and we’re going to do a live stream.
uh probably give us 45 minutes to an hour to get everything up and live so that way I can get all the links of all our maps and everything that we’ve done today. And then you know I was talking to Richard out there too. Now he needs to start pounding every news organization from here as well. The ward needs to be put out. Here’s the search that’s taken place.
Here’s what we currently know. Okay. And let’s keep this going. Yeah. Because we’ve done multiple interviews with all the stations and and even papers and and internet stations too. Internet news feeds. I I’ve done a few. Yep. And we’ll touch on how there’s, you know, some false information out here. Here’s the solid information. So, Too bad to get wet, man.
It’s just too hot. Yeah. We’ll put the slide outs out and we’ll uh we got the AC going so you can come in once we get everything moved up. Okay. Good. Today is uh August 7th and we need your help in locating Whisper, uh mom of 36 years old, as well as her eight-month old daughter. Spread awareness.
driver side headlight that’s completely knocked out, missing from the vehicle, and there’s the driver’s side front door peeled back at the scene where it meets the fender. And it’s a high stress day, so she’s got high blood pressure. She’s driving in the dark with one headlight. You know, check your footage. See if there’s a chance that you can see the vehicle anytime
after 9:00 p.m. She has children that love her and they’re waiting for her to come home and they want their mom and she wouldn’t run from them. She wouldn’t take off. It doesn’t speak to her character. It doesn’t speak to the situation or her circumstances at home right now. For those of you that trust in law enforcement, believe in law enforcement, and think that they’re out there doing their job and that we’re just out here wasting our time, because trust me, I get a lot of comments all the time about how I need to just sit back and let them do their job. I’m sorry, but this is 23 days. This is my family. And if I sit back and wait, what
am I waiting for? What am I telling my children? What am I telling my nieces and nephews that are asking me every day when their mom’s coming home and if they’re going to if she’s going to come home? We need answers. Thank you. You’re welcome. No, you people are awesome. I wish we could have brought her home for you. Yeah. Well, I heard you didn’t want us to at the same time, you know.
So, well, I didn’t want you to find her in the water. That would have meant she’s gone. Yeah. You know, but um I needed that to know that she wasn’t in there because it’s all I’ve been thinking about. Yeah. You know, I I grew up in this valley and I know about all this water, you know, and I know of a lot more water, but my daughter wasn’t in that area. So, but right all my life I’ve I’ve um You should do that as well.
Yeah. Yeah. For some reason, all my life I’ I’ve just always had this feeling I was going to lose one of my children. Never imagined it was going to be my daughter, though. I always thought it was going to be my older son, but you guys have helped me today to to rest and she’s not in the water. So, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. This means everything to me.
You’re welcome. And um and what this putting this out there This is going to get a lot. The detective just called me by the way and he said he got a hold of um Oakdale. What was that? Riverbank. Mhm. And what was the other one? And and they they had they had nothing on their license figures. So we got nothing there. So what that means we need to go the other route.
He also asked about that Jack Road. I said we drove the whole thing all the way to Zack. Yeah. So, but so it’s got to be one of those other two routes. Yeah. Has to be. Well, let’s get more people out there on it. Yeah. And this is going to do it because I was watching, you know, how many people were watching that and and then putting it on Facebook. Yeah.
It it’s going to it’s going to do something and I know it. I can feel it in my bones. And that’s because of you guys. Thank you. Yeah. You’re welcome. I mean, cuz we weren’t getting any anywhere. I mean, just reposting stuff on Facebook and driving ourselves, we weren’t getting anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. You’re hitting the same people over and over. So, this is going to hit a whole new audience for you. This is awesome.
You’re welcome. It’s really awesome. Thank you. You’re welcome. Thank you. Yep. Tonight, there’s a new focus in the search for a Sacramento mother and her eight-month-old daughter who had been missing for more than 3 weeks now. Fresno police now say their vehicle did make it close to Esparo that same day.
Now, live copter 3 was over the area tonight where we spotted this search crews with the Stannis Loss and Sanwaqin County Sheriff’s Office searching the canal with an underwater drone. We contacted both departments and they said they were assisting another agency with the search, but would not say who that agency was or who they were looking for.
We did see crews out there for a while before heading home. And I spoke to Whisper’s mother today. She did not know about any searches today, but she tells me family members had been searching nearby waterways and have found nothing. Morning. Good. Mom, come. Morning, dude. Morning you, Chris. Yep. Pleasure to meet you, Chris.
Pleasure to meet you too. Yeah, I got my mother-in-law just got out of the hospital and my grandmother’s got having issues right now. So, both wife and mom are tied up taking care of grandmas. All right. Good morning, Juan. How you doing? And and this is uh Chris who is a local who has been supporting us for years.
And uh he has a wife and a son that’s about the same age as Sandra and Whisper. And so this this one really tugs at him. You saw the live stream and then you’re like, “Let me check out some uh different camera footage in these locations. The first one was the OBGY on Waterford Highway and they had her at 908 909 going by through the trees.
You can see a car with one headlight. Then I reached out to one of my other buddies and he had her going by before she went through F Street. He had a picture of her in the corner of the camera. Just caught a car going by with one headlight. So coincidental. It’s kind of, you know, got her going through Waterford at Oakdale Waterford Farm Supply.
So my my other theory is is that did she end up over there by the reservoir where we have the skid marks? But I don’t have a route taking her back that direction without another ping or cameras picking her up. Yeah, cuz right where that where those skid marks are going into that canal back there, there’s a cell tower right there.
It’s like you’re literally standing next to it when you’re there, right? And so just bring you into speed on that one. There’s a reservoir just to the east of here as well where and I’ll show you the skid marks and tire marks. There’s and regardless whether um we do or do do not find her at Victory, we have to check that today.
So, even if we find Whisper and Sandra at Victory, after that, we have to go check that out of the location cuz it doesn’t make sense why why PD fire department doesn’t have any indication of a vehicle coming in or out of there. And there’s no drag marks of a vehicle being taken back out of there either. Once again, law local law enforcement is no less than cooperative and that goes for rescue, fire, and PD.
None of them have tried to communicate with the family, with local law enforcement, any of the above. you have Fresno, the Fresno case that they’re not getting assistance from these other townships as they come further north. And so Oakdale at this point, they finally got back to you after 3 or 4 weeks with what happened was the police chief in Fresno had to reach out and talk to Oakdale police chief personally and tell them that we need cooperation because this because they wouldn’t cooperate with the local law enforcement. The detective finally came up after 23 days missing. They started reaching out, traveling,
talking to the other law enforcement, you know, offices going up departments going up north and nobody was cooperating, especially back towards Oaka. The police got a subpoena for her phone finally and they pinged her phone on victory in 120 at about 10:07 between 10:07 and 10:30, which is great because initially we thought that she had no charger. Her phone was completely dead.
And what you end up finding out from getting into another Google account of hers is that she actually Googled home with the filter of avoiding highways which explains why she was on the back roads and what her destination was. Phone goes dead 21 minutes later. And so we already got we got footage from South Sanwalkian Water District.
There’s a camera on North Victory right there as that canal goes up. It’s about half a mile. There’s that first gate. There is a camera there and they do not have her going north. And this is this is where the road is then going to kind of turn norththeast. Yeah. Okay. So, the camera is right at that inter that gate up there. Yeah. So, she didn’t make it any further than 2,000 ft to the north. Yep.
Okay. Um and then I want to bring you up to speed with Juan. So, Juan, you’ve been How long have you actually been doing the diving? Cuz I’ve been watching and tracking a lot of stuff you’ve done and like we’ve just been missing our each other for like the last year and a half or two years.
like you’re coming in right behind me or you’re even coming in my backyard at times and you’re doing great work with cases that I’m not taking on because your diving style is different where you’re more of a free diver. Uh I’m more of a cold case looking for vehicles cuz I know if I find a vehicle I’m going to find the person but you’re looking for individuals are not in their vehicles.
And so kind of bring us up to speed as to your organization not just for Richard and Chris here but you know as well as all the viewers cuz we want to do everything we can to support you. got a couple of tanks I’m going to donate to you today. I see that it’s a real tight family organization that you have going on and the success that you’ve been having.
I mean, like I said, I mean, kudos to you with everything you’ve been doing from little ones to everybody. So, kind of bring us up to speed on all that. Yeah. Well, I started is I mean 30 years ago, but my first rescue was here a year ago in Stoton. And so far in one year I recovered 12 uh people 12 sons and daughters. Um and everyone none of them have been in vehicles or No. Well, just one.
Okay. Just one. Uh one just um Chris Fer, he went in a grove and he went down with the car. Um but that was the only person that I recovered in the vehicle. And so a lot of drownings you’ve been you’ve been working on. Correct.
And and I’ve always said if you don’t find them in the first hundred yards, you know, it’s a needle in a hay stack, you’re not going to find them. And for me, if somebody requests my assistance with a drowning, I’m like first 100 yards and I’ll run them another mile or so in hopes I’m going to find them. But you’re having success not just in that 100 yards, but miles down river. Miles. Yeah. And so kind of tell us about your how you navigate this. Yeah. Your process.
Yeah. Well, basically I started where where they went down and I tried to cover the river left shore in the middle and the in the other shore and I cover my first day I tried to cover five miles. And and you’re not doing sonar, you’re just doing diving or how are you doing this? Just diving. Okay. Yeah. I don’t have a any sonar or any equipment.
I just I free dive when it’s clear water or I just put my tank on and go down and that’s how I I found it. Wow, that’s amazing. Like I said, Juan’s going to be with us all day today. Uh because we are in his own back in his backyard.
You know, I want to be respectful and not stepping on any toes and make sure that, you know, we bring him in on this because like I said, he’s an incredible diver. If we happen to be in swift water today, he’s a lot better at swift water than I am. We were both on the Christina car together. Yeah, we did. And uh you know that was an you know and this and these are waters where local the local dive teams they have their red tape regulations where they’re like we it’s too swift we can’t do it and both you and I we laughed about that one like come on and we should have and here’s what we’re going to both and here’s what I’m doing moving forward and I think what you kind of hinted at as well is if we end up on
a vehicle and it’s the vehicle we’re looking for we are pre-rigging things prior to notifying law enforcement moving forward because we I am sick and tired of having law enforcement show up and then it’s another day or two at times or they just don’t do anything at all.
And so if we have the line in hand, here it is, it’s already hooked up, pull it out, now they have no excuses. So that’s how it is for me moving forward. So So I’m going to put a link to Juan and his dive organization down below. Um we for my organization, for Adventures Purpose, we are good for our financing for 2025 and 2026. Do not send us any more donations.
I want you to if you plan on saying, “Hey, you know, I love everything you’re doing, send all donations right now. I’m going to lick link to your organization, your 501c3, and if you have it in your heart to donate to everything that we’re doing. We’re doing out here doing this free of charge for families and law enforcement.
Support one, support his family and their organization and everything they’re doing cuz man, your heart is in it.” So, like I said, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Pleasure to work with you today. Yeah. Let’s jump in. Let’s have breakfast. We’ll bring you up on the mapping and let’s see if we can bring Sandra and Whisper home today. So, all right.
Great story on the family. Holy moly. So, he’s a realtor. Um, the wife is the lender, daughter is a realtor. Mercedes, the mom, lost her son a little over two years ago to a car accident. And so the mom started coming out and she was able to relate with these moms. And so a whole new connection that we simply don’t have uh for what it is we do for a mom that’s able to connect directly with a here’s how you’re going to be feeling.
You’re going to hate God. You’re going to hate all your friends. You’re going to question why this happened to you. Um, so there’s going to be a lot of hatred for the first year and unanswered questions and then the healing process kind of begins from there. And so she’s able to, like I said, really connect directly on a level that I can’t.
And then the way that um the name of uh angels came about for them is is that on March 21st of 24 is the first recovery that one went out to do. And on that recovery, it was a a mom whose son had ended up in the river and passed away. The daughter had mentioned the kid high school was right nearby.
And so one’s like, “Just down the road?” He goes, “Yeah.” So Juan went down there. The mom was still at the riverbank. He talked to the mom, said, “You know, I I’m a diver. I can, you know, I can come out here and help.” And so he went and got his dive gear, has everything set up on shore, and then said, “Mom, what is your heart telling you? Where is your son at?” And she says, “My son is right there.
” And points to him, and he went out within 30 minutes, uh, that’s where he ended up finding her son. He was normally a body is laying down, but when it’s getting ready to float, it’s, you know, now it starts coming up to the upper position. But the way that he found her son is that he was standing in an upright position with his arms out like an angel with the sun coming in at him and it was a sign of an angel for Juan.
And then when he came up and he was talking to the mom like I found your son and she’s like oh you’re an angel. You’re an angel. And so that’s how Angel’s Recovery came about with uh naming the organization for one as he had mentioned in the past year. They’ve now found 12 people that they’ve been able to recover and help bring home with two of them being young young children.
And a lot of this conversation obviously was happening over breakfast. There’s a lot of noise and stuff in it. We decided just to enjoy breakfast, kind of get to know everyone. So you want to I mean this is going to be We’re not We’re not in the RV right now. Here’s the Here’s the boat and it’s all folded up with the sonar and everything.
So, you want to bring us bring everybody into what’s going on and why So, I’m going to bring everybody into why we are not in the RV down under Dan is actually in the US with his wife visiting. And now Dan is on his vacation portion of it. In doing so, we left a lot of our equipment in the RV that’s now up in Canada on vacation.
Uh, we were able to grab some of the equipment out of the dive trailer that I’ve got, piece enough piece enough of it together that we were able to throw it in the car and just beline down with this new information that we have because now a lot of you Chris uh the local and a lot of other people have come together on this and this is how cases are solved is it’s not me doing it. This is not me.
This is you being a part of this with us uh by spreading awareness uh as to these cases and stepping in when it’s in your own backyard and finding out additional information because on this some of the information came from lot from law enforcement but a lot more of it has come from locals helping out and we’re coming into that town now from the west side of it and here’s the name of the town right here.
Escalon is the name of the town. She was last seen over here in Oakdale and then we ended up on Valley Home is the route that we ended up taking. Coming back on to the 120 here and there’s going to be a See if there’s a Pioneer. Oh, there’s Victory right here. So, Victory is where we’re going.
There’s a canal right here that we’re going to search. She can’t go to the north on Victory because the road turns with the canal and there’s a camera right up here on Victory. There’s the camera back here that she got picked up on and then you have the cameras coming into town here uh into Escalon that she would have been picked up on.
So that’s why we feel like she’s boxed in boxed into this area. And and speaking on the accent portion of it as well, you know, a lot of people said, “Oh, the the husband, the the living boyfriend, husband, they that, you know, they have Sandra together and a lot of fingers been pointed towards him.” And I want you guys to know 100% law enforcement has ruled that out.
They clone the phones. They brought them together to with the technology. Now, they’re able to say, “All right, did these two phones cross path during this moment in time?” All the Ring cameras show that he was home. Nobody came. Nobody left. And so 100% his alibi is airtight. Uh leave him alone. Don’t make rude comments.
And uh yeah, I mean and and day, don’t make rude comments that, hey, the the brother knows and the brother’s just hiding her. No, this is a brother is not hiding his sister. This is a brother cuz I’ve been out with him that is in searching for the sister that he grew up that he went through having to raise each other that they’ve been through so much together that they have this bond that a lot of siblings do not.
We didn’t get on camera last time, but the brother Richard, he’s been living out of his van. He’s been losing sleep over this. He literally had a a bucket or a jug in the back of his van for peeing in with coolers and stuff. He’s been living out of his van distraught trying to find his sister. And I think that’s a good rule of thumb with any case.
I mean, how many cases have we come across where it turned out to be an accident, but everyone thought it was foul play? Oh, you know, Carrie May Parker is the biggest one where so much speculation on the ex-boyfriend and so much so that there were search warrants served on his property. They actually brought an excavator in and dug up his property.
And then in at the end of the day, it was nothing more than an accident that she’s on the way to her son’s birthday party. He was five and she has the bicycle in the trunk of the car for his birthday. All right, here’s Victory right here. Is she turning north at this point or does she veer off here or is she circling back to Oakdale for some reason? So, we don’t know if she’s going south or north at this point.
Um I looking at the situation, she was exploring maps multiple times from Atwater to Waterford to here. So this looks like somewhere where she’d be feeling turned around and possibly pull over or want to pull over to check. They said that she was stationary at the at this point for like 20 minutes before her phone died, right? So, I don’t know if that’s, you know, and what what that would be, but I would feel like if she knew which direction was north, she would be going. She would turn north. So, the the only downside on that one
that I have is if you look at the burm there, it’s a lot steeper for the burm and you have a curb up at the top. Yeah. And so for my personal theory is that you know the pulloff scenario here that she pulls off to take a look and then she’s going to look for another route off of it and she could end up anywhere off of here. Less of a burm also if it’s an accident and she’s doubling back to Oakdale.
So but I’m I’m going to go with whichever you want. North or south first? South. Okay. North’s been searched multiple times and that section over there. My wife and I walked that all the way up to that. You see that camera up there at the gate? Yep. We walked that whole section and pulled sonar on that canal front and back. Okay.
And the footage they have of of, you know, local search and rescue, it’s them searching that side as well. Let’s go with you on that side. Real real quick, did you guys pick up on the story this morning that Mercedes lost her son? Uh those flowers right there, that’s where her son went in. She lost her son right here. Went between those poles.
Those are her flowers. Wow. I didn’t know that it was right here. That was the car that went in and was pinned up against the bridge cuz there was so much current in her. Yeah. Cuz we talked to the guy that lives down there, Mark. He’s actually in front of one of my co-workers and he was he remembers the night that she went in. Yeah. Or he went in. Yeah. The sun went in.
Yeah. Mercedes sun. Wow. [Music] If this is the place he was driving in this way and he didn’t see the stop sign and another car came that way, hit him and he went over the the rail between the two lost and went to the canal. But he didn’t he didn’t die for the accident. He drowned. All right. So, now let’s go [Music] adjust this back down to about 30 ft.
Maybe 25 20 25 on both sides. Yeah, definitely plenty deep to hide the vehicle cuz even though we’re reading 8 ft deep here, you have to remember we’re down another 12 to 18 in. So, we’re at an actual 9 to 9 and 1/2 ft deep is where we’re at. Change this to 55 60 ft. See if I can pick anything up under the bridge by chance.
We got something right there. I’m kind of going sideways on this. So, I’m not going to get the best of readings on that. [Music] So, we’re picking something up right here. So, we got bridge pillar here, but then see how that’s whiter than bridge pillarillar. Yeah. See, I I got something right there.
See that? See how it’s reading? But because of the way that I’m cruising across there, that’s the issue that I’ve got. See right there? Let me come off of this. So, we we need to hold We need to hold ourselves to the bridge. [Music] Right here is our vehicle. Okay. See that? I think we have it. That’s not a bridge pillar. Yeah. I think she’s underneath the bridge here.
Juan, we’re going to put you in the water. What we have is we have what appears to be a vehicle where we’re picking up the the front of it here and then the shadow behind. So based on the the width of the pillar and then what we’re expecting for the width of a vehicle, that’s what I’m showing here. That’s where she went in right there.
It’s possible cuz there cuz there unless there’s something over here that shows scars coming up. All you have is the four-wheeler that was down here earlier. Times of waiting, anticipating, and I want to be respectful of you. Just want you want your space. You want somebody next to you. just take it as it goes. You know, I don’t know. Part of me hopes it’s her, part of me hopes it isn’t.
But if it is, comes the next, you know, the next problem. I got to go explain that to my niece and my nephews. We all get it. Life’s not fair. Things happen. We have to live without people we love sometimes. But they don’t, they’re children. They don’t get that yet. And I don’t want them to learn that with their mom. But but right now, I’m I’m so exhausted.
I I eat, sleep, and breathe this search. This is everything all day, non-stop from the messages and the comments to the phone calls. I’ve gotten 20 phone calls in the last two days from just one person. And then you spread that amongst all the other people. This my whole life’s on hold right now looking for her. And it’s I’m fine with that.
I’m okay with that because leaves the possibility that she’s okay. But with it being this long, I would have to be naive to think that she’s okay. I mean, especially feeling the way that I do and feeling like if she was okay somewhere, I would know. She would reach out and let me know. So, it’s hard. Like I said, there’s some amount of knowledge and acceptance and being able to move forward if it’s her.
But there’s a whole lot of grief that comes with that and trying to figure that out. And that’s a lot. Yeah. you know, if you need your space, you know, said, “Get back, Jared. If you need somebody around, Jared, you know, I need you. We’re here for you.” I appreciate that. I appreciate all of it. Tell me, let me know what we’re doing.
What’s up, sir? Are you Are you Are you Walt? No. Oh, okay. I’m Sean. I I operate the main canal. I just trying to figure out what you guys are doing. Sean and Jared. Nice to meet you. Uh, you heard a whisper and sander that are missing? No. Okay. Oh, yes. Yes. They’re the ones that drove through Waterford, Sacramento. So, I have a sonar scan of a vehicle right underneath the bridge.
And so, we think that we’ve located her and we have entry marks. If you come up just a little bit, uh, about 30 ft past the sign, we have entry marks to where she backed into the water. Okay. So, that’s what we’re doing. Did anybody know that you guys are going to be in here? Uh we called Walt to let him know we’re going to be in the area. He never did call me back. Okay. So, uh so everybody knows that we’re in the area.
Delta knows that we’re in the area, but the irrigation district does not know. Yeah. To the best of my knowledge, other than a phone call has been put into his assistant and he never did get back a hold of me and that people would know that we were supposed to be in the area. So, in the next 15 minutes, we’ll know if this is the vehicle or not. Okay. Uh your flows are about 350 CFS.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We we do we do rapid. So, we’re good. Okay. So, and you said Sean. Yeah. All right. Sean, I’m Jared. Nice to meet you. All right. Thank you. Well, hopefully we get closer. You guys get closer. Yeah, we’ll find out in a few minutes. All right. Thank you. Okay. I’m going to take my time to see where where’s in there and and don’t worry about me.
Okay, sounds good. Yeah, if I’m if I’m reading the sonar right, and again, it’s difficult with where it is underneath the bridge. It appears as though it’s facing down river. So the front of it on sonar is facing down. Appears to be on its wheels. [Music] [Music] Out here on Highway 20 in Victory Road. Last known ping of my sister’s car. Had adventures with purpose.
Get in the water around sonar. They think they might see what looks like a vehicle underneath the bridge. [Music] Here goes the diver. So, right now the divers’s under the bridge checking it out. They don’t know what exactly is. It just appears to be a vehicle. [Music] Yeah. [Music] Oh, no. No. No. You are the man. You are the man.
You are the man. on his wheels. Yeah. Facing down. Yeah. Windows up. Down. See there? Yeah. Windows down. I didn’t see that. So, car but not car. There’s a lot of debris inside. Uh-huh. But I just want to come and confirm to you that that’s the car. Okay. with the last plate 008 left side broken headlight.
Uh and the side door have a a crash obviously. Yeah. But um do you want me to go back and make sure that they are inside? Yeah, I I would because I would say yes so that way we can let law enforcement know how to properly pull this out. Okay. Um that way we can secure them. It’s only been a month. So, I mean, we don’t want to move him unless we have instruction to move them. Yeah.
Car confirmation only right now. The driver’s window is currently down. She’s not in the front seat. He’s going to go back down and do a better assessment now. He just wanted us to know that this is the vehicle for sure. And now he’s going to see if we can identify whether either one of them are in the vehicle.
Oh, yeah. The car is under the bridge in the canal. They don’t They don’t know if she’s in it yet. They’re going to check. Okay. They don’t know if she’s in it or not. They’re going to go back down and check right now. They’re going to go back down and check. Did you call your mom right now? No.
Babe, this is all happening right now. [Music] All right, we’re out here on 120 and Victory Road. At this time, all they know is that the vehicle’s down there. We don’t know if anybody’s inside of it, so bear with us. I can’t record right now, you guys. I’m going to have to post something up, but I can’t do this right now. Was the baby in a car seat? Do you know? She should have been that there.
Yeah, she’s inside. Yeah, both of them. I can’t reach to the car seat. Okay. And because I there’s something floating. Yeah. I don’t want to go inside and this thing is coming out. Okay. So, I just rather to have it there. But if she was with the baby, the baby have to be there because the the seat the passenger seat all the way back to the car seat. All right. She She is in the car.
[Music] And I need you to help us make a decision right now. Okay? And the decision I need you to help us make is, do you want us to pre-rig this so that way it’s rigged and there’s no excuses as to why the car is not coming out today or in expect expedited fashion? Or do you want us to leave everything as is and let them control it? Get it done. Huh? Get it done. Okay.
So, we’re going to pre-rig it before we call law enforcement then. Okay. Yeah. All right. I’m going to leave you right now. All right. Uh-huh. All right. We’re going to go ahead and rig it. I’m going to grab what we need. They’re in the car. Huh? They’re They’re in the car. all this.
You see, what do I do? They’re going to rig the car so that they can get it pulled out today so law enforcement doesn’t come up with an excuse not to. I’m so sorry. I love I love you. Get her on the ground. Give me a little show. Got to track her truck. [Music] [Music] [Music] You reach the San King County Sheriff’s Office non-emergency line. Sheriff’s Office. Hi there.
Hey, hey, my name is Jared and I’m a search uh and recovery diver in the area working the case of Sandra and Whisper Owens who went missing out of Fresno and we are currently off of the 120 and Victory uh in your county and we need an officer dispatched. We we’ve located her vehicle.
It’s pinned underneath the bridge and we just need a deputy and get the process going so we can uh recover her and her vehicle. She’s uh inside. And you said it’s 120 in Victor. Uh is it Victor or Victor? V Victory Avenue. Victory in Escalon. Yes, ma’am. And is it sticking out of the water? No, ma’am. It’s uh pinned under the bridge and it’s in 9 ft of water.
And we and we we have pre-rigged it. Um so we just need to have a rotator uh dispatched as well, so that way they can simply hook to it and pull it out. You need a what? a rotator tow truck. Oh, you want us to call that for you? Yes. Oh, you’re going to pull it? Well, we we have already rigged it for you so that way your that way your deputy on scene can just uh oversee everything that’s going on properly, but he will he either you or he will want to dispatch a rotator uh for the recovery to pull the vehicle out. But we do have it rigged, so you don’t need you do not need a dive team. We’ve already done everything on our side for you.
Okay. Okay. Um, dive team not needed. Okay. I’ll let them know. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Now we get head honcho out here. Huh? I said now we get to head honcho. Who’s this? It’s a different guy. It’s not the same guy. Okay. But from the Oh, thank you.
Where was she at in the car? Where was she at in the car? In the driver’s seat. Yeah, she’s in the driver seat. Yeah. Yeah, I wasn’t able to baby in the car seat see the baby because was something a package looked like was a package floating in the ceiling. I my first impression was the the dappers the box of the uppers but I didn’t want to disturb anything and he the sander was kind of far from the the my side so I didn’t want to go inside. Yeah. Uh we’ve located both of them.
and they’re under pinned underneath the bridge. Um we have law enforcement on the way and then um do you need us to drop flows? Um I think if I mean it’ll be easier for the tow truck so that way we have less current. But let’s get How long does it take to actually slow if we drop flows now? I would I would guess an hour to see the result. Let’s do that if you don’t mind. Yeah.
Because I would I would guess a tow truck would be here in about an hour to 2 hours and is kind of our time frame on it. Okay. But yeah, I can let uh PD know that we’ve already got that in the works. Okay. I’ll uh I’ll get a hold of the operator, have him drop flows as far down as he can. Okay. Appreciate your help on it. Yeah. Thanks, James. Hey, Sean, how far down can you drop flows? Uh Water District is on it. They’re going to start dropping flow for us.
Um so, he’s going to start it now. It’s going to take about an hour for it to effect, which is going to be about an hour to two hours before the tow truck is here anyway. So, that’ll help us have less pressure as we’re pulling it back upstream. And so, everybody’s been great to work with so far. There’s no excuse at this point. We’ve taken away all the excuses.
So, we’ll continue to coordinate this for you and bring her out. But with with this now, also, this is one of those things where 100% we advise that you don’t from a distance. If you want to watch the vehicle come out, this isn’t my first time with this gun. As long as you know what you’re getting into.
I mean, for for me personally, I want you to remember Whisper and Sandra how they were, not how they But this isn’t that’s not the way the world works, man. I I understand. So, as long as you know what you’re up against. All right. Yeah. Okay. It’s not my first love I’ve seen like this, unfortunately. Okay. Part of me knew this was going to happen today.
Everybody kept asking to start a GoFundMe so that I could get to search, you know, and get the private investigator, get everything else going. But, I knew that this was going to be the case. So, I wanted to wait for that until funeral arrangements and everything else is necessary cuz um speaking of that, so we have an incredible community that has stepped up before to help out with funeral expenses. Is your family good with funeral expenses or do you need help with that? We’ll need help with it.
Do me a favor then or have Nicole or I need you or Nicole to do this before we put out the information this evening. We need to have that up and we need to have that link so we can start driving people to it for you. Okay? So, if if somebody can coordinate that in the next couple of hours.
I was trying to get a hold of my brother-in-law and let him know what’s going on, but I think he put his phone away because he’s got my niece and nephew with him and he’s been trying not to take these calls and stuff on the weekends cuz he’s with the other kids and it takes from them. So, unfortunately, I don’t think he’s seen my calls or got my message. Yeah. So, but I don’t want to disrespect his wishes with the baby and I start making arrangements for both of them.
I know I want to include him in this decision as far as what he wants to do. I don’t know exactly if he has even a religious preference or if he wants we traditionally do cremations in our family so it’s not as costly and and as extravagant as you know most situations but unfortunately we’ve lost probably about close to 10 people in the last 6 years. Oh man. And me and my wife have come out of pocket for almost every one of those.
Hey Jared, this is Barrett P with the sheriff’s office. How are you? Yes, sir. I’m doing well. Thanks for calling. Just curious, have you guys been in touch with Fresno? No. Uh, no. We called, uh, because we called the non-emergency for the county that we’re in. So, as far as I know, I called the the correct line. Um, so cool. Hey, we’re in route now.
Um, we’re’ll be out there probably like 15 minutes or so, Jared. Okay. Okay. And, uh, what I have so far for you is the uh, water district has stopped by. So, they’ve got the, uh, flows. They’re going to start dropping those. So, about another hour and 45 minutes, the flow will be as low as we need it. Uh, or as low as they can put it for us.
And then we we have pre-rigged it. So, you don’t need any divers. And we just need a rotator out here to uh pull it and help coordinate. How’s it going? Good. How about you? Not too bad. Good. What you got for us? I got a vehicle with a body and hopefully two of them in there. [Music] You were over here. Go back up and then I believe that she was in reverse when she went in back into it down river on it wheels.
So over on 26 milei at your outlet coming out of the reservoir over there, you’ve got these tire marks that are coming into it with what appears to be fresh marks as well, but there’s no marks indicating that a tow truck has been over there to drag this back out. Okay. We have a camera that can see right there. Mhm. We have a camera that’s kind of like here looking this way.
Um but split second is all it takes. Right. Right. But this never drain. Even in November, it’s not going to drain down. Um, it’ll it’ll get Yeah, we’ll get that part down pretty pretty low. I mean, there may be a trickle going through there. Less than 6 ft. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We’re going to shut all that down. Okay. Well, then we won’t worry about it then.
We’ll let you guys just kind of keep an eye on it and know that you might have something in there. Okay. [Music] Jared. Yes, sir. How’s it going? I’m Jared. Hey. It’s been a while, man. How you doing? Good. You? Good. Good. Good. Um, want to confront, are you taking lead on this? No. Okay. Fresno was not interested in coming out. We gave them a courtesy. They may might have would have been here for their investigation.
They don’t want to come out. But right now, it’s just a joint sheriff’s office, CHP crime scene. Until if there’s clear evidence of the traffic accident, great. If there’s not, who knows what this could be, right? But are we just small? Are you the rivers and veins and mud? The flakes that become snow.
And you might believe that everything is broken. Fragments of senses we haven’t spoken. And maybe [Music] are we just jagged lines across a bar? Are the shapes inside a sundance the same as the arms of trees and saying we’re shelf to be. Maybe we’re smaller. Are we just smaller? And I get lost in finding comfort. [Music] Fractals all around. hopes that I found.
There’s beauty in these broken hearts. Now I know there is nothing to be fixed. Oh, can we exist? Hey, grab the bike. Wait. not paying up money. [Music] You got to be kidding me. They open the door right here. Yeah, they’ll what? A lot of them they’ll rec they’ll take the body out of the vehicle before they recover the vehicle.
So, because you’re less than I mean you’re less than 6 months in and you still have a full body. It happens more often than not that that’s what they choose to do. Why? Um because they don’t want to have the chance of like losing it while they’re actually pulling the vehicle out.
And so a lot of dive teams will make that decision to pull them out if they can. So what I would think to do is just with a nut a net with magnets. Oh, I understand. Put a magnet on top of the Yeah. on the job and come over here and do it. I’m standing right where you at right there. Just so you know, we’re we’re going to be very respectful.
So, yeah, I know. I know that. And that little snuff did. Oh, look at what I seen today. I’m not doing that. Yeah. Somebody else. Yes. Oh, he he came out through the sun. This is a guy. Yes. That’s why I asked, did you see the sunroof open? Cuz they said that the sunroof is open. We didn’t see it either. Yeah.
And then when they popped the door open, he went up through the sunroof. Oh, so there’s another person. Is she in there? They said he says there’s more pe there’s more than two people in there. He says that she’s still in the car. When they popped the door open, he went up through the sunroof. Hey, your sister’s still in the car.
What? That’s a guy. That’s a guy. Yeah. Was she with somebody else? Obviously, it had to have. I mean, yeah, but the car has a sunroof. Mhm. The car has a sunroof. Um, I don’t even remember. Yeah, there is a sunroof. So, they So, yeah. So, he came out through the sunroof just now. So, he was He was on the other side.
This is getting worse. My brother-in-law is not come. I really hope he decides not to come. at all. You make sure I don’t know if the bag you’re going to be able to go underwater. You just soak it as much as possible off the top of the car. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Bring it back down. I said the driver or the driver.
You want me to go down the door? Stand by the door shut. We’ll probably send it back down and go to hook up the car. She wouldn’t have fit in that much of the bag. So, I’m wondering I’m wondering if they’re mistaken. And that was her and that and the baby and that was it. Just the two of them and that was third person.
But I don’t know based on the clothing was the ripped jeans looked like the ripped jeans she was wearing. For me ripped jeans and tank top she was the whisper for for me. Yeah. So why was the guy telling you that it was a guy? Yeah. Why was the detective or the sergeant? They said I was somebody else. Yeah.
Somebody went through the moon, right? That’s better there’s not three in there. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz that would have just made a whole lot more questions. At this point, I’m trying to make peace with an accident. I don’t need to start looking into the whole foul play gimmick. Yeah. Yeah. If you can get to the lowest one, go to the lowest one. Okay. If you can’t, then go to the second one here and get rid of the third one.
Okay. I think. But I gave I gave you options on it. Yeah. Yeah. So, just go Yeah. Go to that one until he’s closer and then rerigg it. Okay. When you can. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yep. You’re welcome. Hey, I love talking. But hey, I just can’t wait to have you. [Music] Oh, I’m right now, but I need you around.
Hey, we both know that this is right. So, hey, why should we wait a night? [Music] Heat. Heat. I’m going to love you till the end of time. Cuz a love like ours is hard to find. Heat. Heat. Heat. [Music] I’m going to love you till the end of time. Can we turn it again? Cuz a love like is Yeah. Love like ours is hard to find.
Where’s Richard? He’s right over here, my dear. Okay. I’m sorry. Where did you take him, Jared? They’re They’re still on scene over here. As far as I know, I think they’re on the other side. But as a mom, no. Okay. Please listen to me. How good things were at home and how she was excited to get home and to keep making core memories with her family.
to keep making memories that she could be proud of and that kids would be able to look back on and remember for the rest of their lives. Memories that, you know, we didn’t have a lot of when we were kids and she was proud to start making them [Music] [Music] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Music] Heat.
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